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Faith vs Reality - Yet another challenge I'm going to win.

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Calamity	Faith vs Reality - Yet another challenge I'm going to win.		Lead	[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 09:07 Ne'er-do-well	Tags : sprague, challenge, unbelief, elijah, altar Remove this ad On his own little corner of the 'net, a blowhard wrote (bolding mine): RobertSprague wrote: (miracles) remind me that God has preserved me for a purpose and the joy in faith is to discover just what that purpose is. Sometimes we just need a sign. If there is doubt in your heart, if you get discouraged or if you feel the joy of your faith fading, then pray for a sign. God will not be stingy with you. Put up or shut up, Robert. I've shown you articles where prayer had absolutely no positive effects on heart patients who were prayed over by believers. I'm challenging you to put up or shut up. Your faith and prayers vs my "unbelief". Winner stays, loser leaves. You have one week to accept this challenge. If you forfeit, you're gone. Get your prayer mat fired up, Robert. I'm waiting. "unbelief" = reality NACBoard Factoid: This is the second time I've issued this challenge on the board. Maybe Sprague has more juice with Yahweh than JF did. We'll see! JF is gone - but what will happen to Sprague? Heck, what will happen to ME? I'm so nervous!! <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| ---> Last Edited By: Calamity 02/16/2010 13:07. Edited 5 times.
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BatP	Just a note about the link above...	#1		[-]
Posts: 1750 02/15/2010 09:14	...if you're not an "approved member", you cannot view the referenced post.
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Calamity		#2		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 09:27 Ne'er-do-well	BatP wrote: ...if you're not an "approved member", you cannot view the referenced post. Logout of Yuku, then you can view the "Public Forums". I posted the salient bits by quoting Robert in the lead post, though. <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| --->
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BatP	It must be a miracle!	#3		[-]
Posts: 1750 02/15/2010 09:37	It worked exactly as you said...thanks.
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RobertSprague		#4		[-]
Posts: 117 02/15/2010 12:37 Evangelical NAC	Calamity wrote: Put up or shut up, Robert. I've shown you articles where prayer had absolutely no positive effects on heart patients who were prayed over by believers. I'm challenging you to put up or shut up. Your faith and prayers vs my "unbelief"**. Winner stays, loser leaves. You have one week to accept this challenge. If you forfeit, you're gone. Get your prayer mat fired up, Robert. I'm waiting. First don't threaten me. If you want to do something, have the guts to do it. Don't wast your time and mine with idle threats. It's childish. Secondly, you are the one who continually denies the existence of God which places the burden of proof on you. So prove it. If you cannot then be man enough to admit you are wrong. Thirdly, It takes more faith to believe that the universe started out as matter so dense that it could fit on the head of a pin and then for no apparent reason explode than it is to believe in God. Further it takes immeasurably more faith to believe in the Theory of Evolution than to believe that God created Heaven and earth. So in reality you have more faith then any of us. Now as for staying on this board, if you really need to feel good about yourself or raise your self esteem please feel free to ban me from this board.....again.
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Calamity	Dumbing it down for the blowhard	#5		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 12:51 Ne'er-do-well	Robert, I know you're slow - and deluded - but the time for your incessant blather is over. You will put up or shut up - it's a very simple challenge, with a very simple black and white ending. Either your faith in your deity works, or it's just hot air. Are you a coward, blowhard? Are you man enough to accept the challenge? If I win, you're gone - proof that you're nothing more than a liar and a blowhard. If you win, I'm gone - disgraced, forever chastised, silenced, dismissed by the mighty Hand of God. If you're afraid of what will transpire here, I understand - but everyone will see right here on this board whether you're a liar and a blowhard, or a man who speaks the truth. Think of yourself as Elijah, Robert. Here's your chance. No more BS, no more of your drivel - PROOF. All that nonsense you posted up there means nothing, the challenge is everything. I'm willing to face that challenge - are you? If you forfeit, you're GONE. What's it gonna be - yes or no? <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| ---> Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 12:54. Edited 1 time.
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RobertSprague		#6		[-]
Posts: 117 02/15/2010 13:01 Evangelical NAC	All that nonsense you posted up there means nothing, the challenge is everything. I'm willing to face that challenge - are you? If you forfeit, you're GONE. What's it gonna be - yes or no? Hey if the question is is too hard for you maybe I can come up with and easier one. However, since you have not come up with any proof to support your assertions then the contest is now over.
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Trike Troll	I thought sprague was up for a good challenge	#7		[-]
Posts: 2534 02/15/2010 13:04 Perma-Banned	RobertSprague wrote: First don't threaten me. If you want to do something, have the guts to do it. Don't wast your time and mine with idle threats. He didn't threaten you, it was a challenge. Calamity: I'm challenging you to put up or shut up. Challenging sprague to use a dictionary...with 1-4-5
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Calamity		#8		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 13:04 Ne'er-do-well	YES OR NO, ROBERT? Everyone's watching. Are you afraid that God will be stingy with you? <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| ---> Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 13:09. Edited 1 time.
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RobertSprague		#9		[-]
Posts: 117 02/15/2010 13:14 Evangelical NAC	DELETED. I'm not playing games with you, "Man of God" - you will answer "Yes" or "No", or I will edit every single post you make until you either accept the challenge as I presented it, or you forfeit. Got it? YES OR NO - Calamity Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 13:18. Edited 2 times.
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RobertSprague		#10		[-]
Posts: 117 02/15/2010 13:18 Evangelical NAC	Remove this ad YES OR NO , blowhard - C. Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 13:20. Edited 1 time.
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RobertSprague		#11		[-]
Posts: 117 02/15/2010 13:28 Evangelical NAC	DELETED. What's wrong, Bobby? Is your faith weak or something? Or is it your God that's weak? Hmm? Yes or No. Or goodbye. It's simple, blowhard. - C Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 13:31. Edited 1 time.
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Calamity	Sacrificial lamb	#12		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 14:02 Ne'er-do-well	All it takes is the faith of a mustard seed . . . but I guess some folks don't even have that, they just like to pretend because they like to preach. If God isn't gonna smite me and strike me down, perhaps another test can be designed. I bought a few supplies: and made myself an altar. I bought some sacrificial animals, too - a little lamby, a cow, and a dinosaur, just for fun: Like Elijah, Robert (Or anyone else. Or everyone else, for that matter) can pray that God sets that little altar on fire. I won't douse it with water first like Elijah did, but right now I'm gonna stain it with some Honey Oak stain I have in the garage that's starting to go rancid. I'll get a newspaper, and take pics of the altar on that newspaper with the date clearly visible, and we'll wait 24 hours or so for the awesome power of the faithful's prayers to take effect. If after 24 hours that little altar hasn't burst into flames, I'll take a picture of the altar with the next day's newspaper and date. C'mon, it'll be fun! One of these days I'm gonna get a webcam, and we can do this on a live feed! <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| ---> Last Edited By: Calamity 02/15/2010 14:11. Edited 2 times.
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Calamity	Banned until further notice.	#13		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 14:22 Ne'er-do-well	Robert has been banned until he writes Ken, Brenda and myself that he's accepted my challenge. I'm tired of his inability to respond rationally to simple Yes or No questions. If we don't hear from him, he's gone for good. I for one am done playing with this insufferable blowhard and bullsh!t artist. He has his own forum now, he can play over there, pretending to be a "Man of God" all he wants on his own little corner of the 'net. That is all. <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| --->
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Trike Troll	That's sporting of you to put some accelerant on it.	#14		[-]
Posts: 2534 02/15/2010 14:25 Perma-Banned	Calamity: I'm gonna stain it with some Honey Oak stain I have in the garage that's starting to go rancid. Hey! that's where Whithead must have got his designs from...with 1-4-5
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Calamity		#15		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/15/2010 14:38 Ne'er-do-well	Whithead . . . does that rhyme with Shi . . . oh! Forget it! That Honey Oak stain should burn well, right? I don't want to be accused of putting something on there that would inhibit the all-consuming fire! <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| --->
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Ed Banger	Bobby Boy	#16		[-]
Posts: 2533 02/16/2010 07:03 Redneck Bishop	HE GOT IT!!!!!! Don't censor me. Censor those who disagree with me.
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Trike Troll	For the tougher cuts of meat	#17		[-]
Posts: 2534 02/16/2010 07:10 Perma-Banned	Hey Ed, it looks like my schnitzel tenderizer. Now it's a sprague smasher...with 1-4-5
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Calamity	Not tough, just flabby	#18		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/16/2010 13:30 Ne'er-do-well	Trike Troll wrote: For the tougher cuts of meat That one wasn't tough - it was mostly soft, gelatinous fat. And mostly concentrated in the flabby head area. <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| --->
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Next Right	Can you give me the nutshell version.	#19		[-]
Posts: 215 02/18/2010 06:36	Geesh, take a couple days off and it takes a couple weeks to catch up. Ok, I read and re-read this thread. I really don't understand why you banned sprague. Maybe I am missing something. I am not defending him or his position, I am just trying to figure out what happened. He comes on this board and quickly establishes himself as somewhat of a kook, IMO. He constantly posts using large fonts, quotes not attributed correctly and typical NAC TB behavior including revisionist history, and histrionic type behavior. Then he starts his own board, but yet he still keeps poking Calamity with his feeble little barbs. Then Calamity issues him this throwdown and because he won't debate, he's banned? Did I get this right? Or have I missed something important? NR Last Edited By: Next Right 02/18/2010 06:39. Edited 1 time.
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Calamity	It's not a death sentence	#20		[-]
Posts: 6590 02/18/2010 07:36 Ne'er-do-well	Remove this ad The challenge I issued to him gave him an opportunity to put up or shut up. Rather than accept the challenge, he willfully misrepresented what the challenge was, declared himself the winner several times, and showed no willingness to address or even acknowledge what was written. He wasn't banned for what he argued, he was banned for the way he argued. This thread also wasn't THE reason he was banned, it was a culmination of things that lead to him finally crapping his hole full, and someone needed to shovel it out. For the record, Sprague should have been gone weeks ago. If you check with the other mods, they'll verify that I was one of the few (if not the only one) who argued for keeping the little whackjob around, mainly as the NAC poster boy - living proof of everything written here on this board about the NAC and its indoctrination. Sprague wanted things on this board done his way, right down to insisting what smilies should or shouldn't be used. He finally started his own board on Jan. 9th. Now he can play over there, and do it all his way. Personally I think he'll be much happier over there. He wants to preach, not discuss things, so now he has his own venue. If there's enough of an outcry for his return, that can always be arranged - it's not a life sentence, it's just a radio button on an admin menu that can be pushed ON or OFF. <--- \| http://newapostasy.blogspot.com \| \| Magical rune/tarot: The Blasted Tower \| ---> Last Edited By: Calamity 02/18/2010 07:48. Edited 2 times.
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