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Calamity

Discussion Re: "Atheism vs Christianity" in the Formal Debates area

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03/09/2008 14:31

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This is where discussions about the debate between Matzdorf and I can take place. The "Formal Debates" area is only for those who have agreed to a debate.

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Edited 1 time by Calamity 05/19/2008 17:10.

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05/19/2008 14:38

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Matzdorf wrote:

Calamity
Your claim that atheism is a default state into which all of us is born into actually exposed you as a fraud. You are not an atheist as you claim to be because you proclaim yourself as the resident EVIL atheist. You are an anti-christ and that is the path that you have chosen.

This is quite an interesting thought, Matzdorf and really got my mind going all sorts of places.

Was God in essence an anti-Christ? If He's omnipotent... and created everything.... and doesn't make mistakes.... (although Chief Apostles have claimed He does change His mind) wouldn't He have known he was creating the Evil one (hence helped bring "evil" into existence)... therefore wouldn't that make Him the supreme anti-Christ... or, in a Trinitarian world, anti-Self?

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05/19/2008 20:51

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oops. sorry.

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05/20/2008 09:48

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Calamity
Your claim that atheism is a default state into which all of us is born into actually exposed you as a fraud. You are not an atheist as you claim to be because you proclaim yourself as the resident EVIL atheist. You are an anti-christ and that is the path that you have chosen.

Matzdorf

How shameful of Matzdorf, but then again he must have taken offense to banishment by Obe-wan Calamity's light saber. What's next, are Deaconess, SOE, myself etc to be minions in the anti-Christ's army of doom? Why doesn't he just admit his shortfalls in the debate, honorably accept defeat like a man, agree to disagree and go back to the books. That's the problem with NACers and alike, if they can't answer it or regurgitate some line from one of there bob's it must be the anti-Christ or something, no wonder they are declining in the western world so quickly.

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Edited 1 time by Trike Troll 05/21/2008 08:22.

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vickie g

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09/14/2010 21:41

Trike Troll wrote:

Calamity
Your claim that atheism is a default state into which all of us is born into actually exposed you as a fraud. You are not an atheist as you claim to be because you proclaim yourself as the resident EVIL atheist. You are an anti-christ and that is the path that you have chosen.

Matzdorf

How shameful of Matzdorf, but then again he must have taken offense to banishment by Obe-wan Calamity's light saber. What's next, are Deaconess, SOE, myself etc to be minions in the anti-Christ's army of doom? Why doesn't he just admit his shortfalls in the debate, honorably accept defeat like a man, agree to disagree and go back to the books. That's the problem with NACers and alike, if they can't answer it or regurgitate some line from one of there bob's it must be the anti-Christ or something, no wonder they are declining in the western world so quickly.

As comrade Calamatyavich looks upon us from the.. heavens?...with 1-4-5

Whay does "atheism is a default state" mean? Thanks, Vickie

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09/15/2010 06:26

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vickie g wrote:
Whay does "atheism is a default state" mean? Thanks, Vickie

No one is born a Jew or a Christian or a Muslim or a Mormon, etc. You are born without religion until you are indoctrinated, usually by your parents. Therefore, atheism is the default state that you're born into, until someone changes that. Most people will profess the religion of their parents.

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Thanks!

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09/15/2010 12:31

Calamity wrote:

vickie g wrote:
Whay does "atheism is a default state" mean? Thanks, Vickie

No one is born a Jew or a Christian or a Muslim or a Mormon, etc. You are born without religion until you are indoctrinated, usually by your parents. Therefore, atheism is the default state that you're born into, until someone changes that. Most people will profess the religion of their parents.

I never thought of that before. Interesting.

Edited 1 time by vickie g 09/15/2010 12:33.

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